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Katherina Rosqueta
Interview
Interview - Paul Brest, Jed Emerson, Katherina Rosqueta, Brian
Trelstad and Michael Weinstein
1 April 2009
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One of the most perennially vexing questions in philanthropy is how to
assess the impact of funding, especially where there’s no obvious way
of putting a price on the end product. A recently published paper on
Measuring and/or Estimating Social Value Creation, written by Melinda
Tuan and commissioned by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, features
different models adopted for this purpose by a number of US
foundations.
Alliance talked to representatives of some of these foundations about
the strengths and weaknesses of their approaches, what they had
learned from the research, and what they see as the next steps for the
field. Fay Twersky (Gates Foundation) comments.
At one level, the different foundations are doing very similar things.
As Katherina Rosqueta of the Center for High Impact Philanthropy
remarks, ‘all of the approaches, including SROI [social return on
investment], employ the same fundamental ratio: impact-cost or
cost-impact. We all recognized that.’ Within this broad approach,
however, there are some interesting nuances.
Acumen Fund’s BACO analysis
Brian Trelstad
Brian Trelstad
The Acumen Fund does what it calls a BACO analysis, explains Brian
Trelstad, which ‘compares the net outputs over time of our investment
(and its net cost or net income) with the “best available charitable
option”, a prevalent comparable that provides us with as close as we
can get to an apples to apples comparison of what else our donors
could “buy” on the philanthropic marketplace for the same amount of
philanthropy.’
Strengths and weaknesses? On the credit side, says Trelstad, the
analysis ‘is fairly simple and intuitive. The team can conduct a BACO
in a very reasonable amount of time and the “marginal mindset” really
forces them to think about whether our investment is the best use of
limited philanthropy.’ On the other hand, he admits, ‘the comparisons
can be arbitrary … it doesn’t calibrate for quality, so you have to do
a quality adjusted BACO’ and it doesn’t ‘discount the future value of
social output. If we invest in a business that sustainably generates
clean water in perpetuity, we only capture the outputs over the life
of our 5 to 7 year investment.’
Center for High Impact Philanthropy favours simplicity
The chief virtue of the Center for High Impact Philanthropy’s
approach, says Katherina Rosqueta, is its simplicity: ‘We divide the
philanthropic capital required to obtain a given impact by the
incremental impact expected. We call this “cost per impact”. Examples
would be “$1,000 per child life saved” or “$30,000 - $250,000 per
additional on-time high school graduate”.’ One of the reasons for this
simplicity, she acknowledges – touching on one of the great sticking
points in this whole area – is that ‘when we looked at the state of
available evidence and data to be used in linking cost and impact, we
found it was pretty thin’.
Other reasons for its simplicity are the need to produce something
that works across the various different contexts in which the Center
operates (which are ‘as different as US education and global public
health’) and the need for ‘an approach that requires minimal
incremental data collection on the part of non-profits and that can be
easily grasped by individual philanthropists. When we tested it, our
approach worked on both counts.’
The chief drawback, she says, is that it involves ‘focusing on one
primary impact. That limits comparability to those programmes or
activities that have set out to achieve the same primary goal. It also
means that important secondary or related impacts are not captured.’
Michael M Weinstein
Michael M Weinstein
Robin Hood’s monetization approach
In an effort to get round the first of these difficulties, the Robin
Hood Foundation uses what Michael Weinstein calls a ‘monetization
approach’: ‘to compare the value of differently targeted grants, we
translate impacts, no matter what form they take, into dollars.’ Some
non-profits, understandably, he admits, choose to make no such
comparisons, leaving different types of grants to be judged
differently. ‘Donors can invoke a cost-effectiveness standard:
choosing grantees which minimize the cost per success, where success
is limited to a common outcome, for example training unemployed
individuals to become certified nurse practitioners. Such
cost-effectiveness standards offer the advantage of simplicity and
reliability, but they can’t guide allocations across programmes of
different types.’
The benefit-cost procedure, he says, ‘provides a disciplined,
transparent decision-making process. The procedure takes explicit
account of counterfactuals – what staff assume would have happened to
participants in the absence of interventions funded by Robin Hood.’
Of course, as he admits, ‘the process requires substantial guesswork,
and therefore involves substantial imprecision.’
Paul Brest
Paul Brest
The Hewlett approach: logic models and measurable outcomes
Paul Brest of the Hewlett Foundation points to the same problem when
he says that ‘most of our philanthropic goals are highly complex, so
there is real risk that the logic and assumptions behind some of our
estimates are wrong’. Hewlett’s approach is nevertheless for
programmes to ‘include measurable outcomes and targets in their goals,
and to have explicit logic models that explain how grants and clusters
of grants are intended to contribute to the targets’. Brest believes
that ‘the use of measurable goals and targets and an expected return
mindset helps programme staff make explicit tradeoffs in grantmaking,
which has been particularly valuable in a time of diminished
resources.’
‘A major convergence in approaches’
So much for the pros and cons of each of these approaches. What did
Gates’ nominated experts gain from looking at each other’s homework
and discovering how they go about ‘comparing apples with oranges’, as
Michael Weinstein puts it?
For most of them, there is a good deal of excitement and optimism
produced by the discovery that, as Paul Brest points out, ‘there is
major convergence in approaches among those thinking hardest about
these issues. This seems to imply,’ he goes on, ‘that we are
collectively pursuing something useful (or perhaps participants in a
collective folly).’ He believes that starting the process of analysing
programme strategies may be more important than the early results it
produces. ‘Having explicit logic and assumptions is allowing us to
improve results steadily with a sort of “successive approximation”,’
which, he suggests, ‘may be the only way to tackle some of the truly
complicated social issues that we work on.’
For Katherina Rosqueta, the single most exciting discovery is that the
Center for High Impact Philanthropy ‘has some very thoughtful partners
in moving the field towards better evidence and a more thoughtful
approach that goes beyond counting inputs to linking costs to impact’.
Brian Trelstad cites two things about the process that excite him:
‘Most exciting to me was the convergence around what we came to call
“cost effective cost-effectiveness”. The core insights of
cost-effectiveness evaluation endure, but those of us without the
resources to conduct thorough cost-effectiveness studies for our
investments can still benefit from the mental constructs with these
very light-touch (cost-effective) ways of building that thinking into
how we make decisions.’
The second exciting thing was to get feedback from peers on ‘what they
think works and what doesn’t work’. He admits to being ‘sort of hung
up on some seemingly unsolvable methodological limitations that others
have got past (eg how to account for the future value of output) while
they might be ignoring simple things to make the tool more robust (eg
recalculating on an annual basis and watching how things trend). Not
letting the perfect be the enemy of the good in esteemed company has
given us more confidence to keep pushing on these tools.’
SROI coming of age
Jed Emerson
Jed Emerson
The fact that such approaches are at last gaining ground is the most
exciting thing for Jed Emerson of Uhuru, who acted as adviser to the
project and was the architect of the SROI concept over a decade ago
when working with REDF (Roberts Enterprise Development Fund). ‘The
idea that one should attempt to track the performance of social
capital as one measure of impact has gained wide acceptance. While the
specific details of the framework and how it differs from traditional
cost-benefit analysis are still in the process of being assessed and
explored, there can be no debate that such an analysis can be
undertaken and helps inform discussions regarding both how best to
allocate and how best to assess the performance of capital invested in
social impact.
‘The second exciting aspect of the evolution of this work,’ he goes
on, ‘is to see how various people from within various
cultural/political contexts are exploring how best to apply such an
approach for their own conditions.’
The next step?
If there is an emerging general movement towards social value
measurement, as Jed Emerson implies, what should that movement do next
and what is getting in the way?
Paul Brest believes that ‘it may be time to explore how shared (or
overlapping) goals, logic models and targets could allow a group of
foundations to achieve more than the sum of their individual efforts.
This might be demonstrated within a relatively measurable field (eg
environmental sustainability in the western US). For example,’ he
suggests, ‘we could create and document an experiment in which a group
of foundations would consider these tools collectively, and report on
whether synergies result.’
Beyond BACOs to broader data sets ...
Brian Trelstad of Acumen wants to ‘migrate from a world where
portfolio managers conduct bespoke BACOs to one where there is a large
enough and reliable enough data set for our teams to run the numbers
against a relevant peer set. The BACO would then give way to peer
benchmarks.’ The biggest obstacle he sees as ‘agreeing on standard
definitions (when is a job a job?) and being willing to create an
information regime that encourages real transparency.’ This, he
observes, is not so much a technical challenge as an organizational
one.
Katherina Rosqueta recommends working ‘towards domain- or
sector-specific standards for cost accounting and impact metrics’ and
suggests, ‘in areas where the evidence base is thin, keep it simple’.
She concludes with a caution and a recommendation: ‘All of these
measurements or estimates are only as good as the assumptions and data
we put into them. More and better impact assessments – especially in
domestic, social service programmes – coupled with standardizing costs
data and impact metrics, would go a long way to giving the field
reasonable benchmarks with which to make decisions.’
... and better counterfactuals
Michael Weinstein has two recommendations: ‘Find creative ways to use
existing national data sets to generate better estimates of the
poverty-fighting impacts of policy interventions and create better
counterfactuals: baseline economic and other outcomes for individuals
in the absence of charity-driven interventions.’ The chief enemy of
progress he sees as the high cost of randomized control-group
experiments which, for him, are ‘the most reliable means by which to
estimate the impact of policy interventions’. On the other hand, the
next best thing – ‘translating short-term, observable impacts into
estimates of long-term impacts’ – requires ‘a rich experimental
literature’.
Beyond SROI as a single number
For Jed Emerson, ‘the next step is to continue exploring SROI not as a
single number, but as an integrated set of metrics which together
paint a more complete picture of total performance.’ When exploring
the ‘quantitative representation of qualitative value’, he says, we
too often ‘seek a single number to capture all measures of worth’.
One of the challenges in conducting an SROI analysis, says Emerson,
‘is simply that one is trying to simultaneously capture value at a
number of levels – financial, social and, in some cases,
environmental. While parts of the SROI framework lend themselves to
being represented in a single number, other aspects of return have to
be presented in language or in qualitative terms which, when viewed
together with quantitative, numeric analysis, give one the full
measure of social return. This should be kept in mind as practitioners
work to create their own frameworks for assessing social return on
investment.’
What stands in the way?
In Paul Brest’s experience, one of the greatest obstacles is ‘the
perception by some programme officers that explicit use of logic
models, measures and targets limits their ability to fund unexpected
opportunities and may not take advantage of their expert intuitions as
grantmakers’. Hewlett attempts to address these concerns, he says, by
continuing to encourage pools of funding for unexpected opportunities
and by emphasizing that the models are intended to inform expert
intuition not override it. ‘We acknowledge that at least the first
generation of this approach is going to be flawed, and allow programme
officers to override “the numbers” when they feel that the process is
getting the wrong answer.’
For Jed Emerson, what stands in the way is ‘quite simply the limits of
our sense of imagination which we, collectively, bring to this task.
Too many people begin the conversation from where they are as opposed
to where they would like to end up. If you are on an existing path,
and you look forward, what you are most likely to see is the
continuation of that path. But if you are on a path and you look up
and beyond, often you are better able to refocus on your ultimate
goal, and see how other paths connect with the one you are on and how
your own path may not in fact be the best one after all.
‘As I've listened to the emerging debates around SROI over more than a
decade, I can only sit back at times and smile at how passionately
people seem to be able to fight for their path – as opposed to how
excited we should all be when our paths help take us further up this
mountain.’
Fay Twersky
Fay Twersky
Comment Fay Twersky
Many years before I joined the Gates Foundation, I was part of the
team that created the REDF SROI approach along with Jed Emerson,
Melinda Tuan and practitioners in the REDF portfolio. The field has
come a long way since then.
But there are still a number of key ingredients missing if we want to
see wider uptake of common measurement approaches, as Melinda’s paper
makes clear. First is a common language. All the methodologies
profiled in the paper use basic terminology differently. One person’s
impact is another person’s output. For the purpose of the paper, we
converted all these into a common set of terms, but this language
divergence is a challenge for the field, because a lot of meaning is
lost in translation.
Another key challenge is the quality of data to populate the various
social value creation calculations. The calculations are only as good
as the data you put into them. Inconsistency in measures and
inconsistent data quality make the calculations less reliable and less
helpful than we really need them to be if they are to inform
decision-making.
But we need to be wary about relying only on the data calculations,
however good. As Jed points out, a simple numeric ‘answer’ is never
enough. It can lead to a sense of false precision and misleading
reductionism. The numeric calculation can only be part of what informs
sound professional judgement about the merits of an approach to
creating social value. The discipline of the measurement process is in
some ways as important as the measurement itself.
Another thing that is vitally important, and not always done, is to
measure how our assumptions play out over time. Some of the
methodologies are simply prospective. They help target investments
that we estimate will be significant and transformative. While that is
useful in terms of informing how resources may be best targeted for
impact, it is critical to measure to ensure that those assumptions are
actually borne out. Such real-time measurement can inform course
correction and also make subsequent investment decisions more
realistic.
At the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, we have not adopted one single
approach to calculating social value creation across the foundation.
We are designing our measurement processes to be directly focused on
our theories of change, to measure milestones of progress and targeted
outcomes and impacts. Our aim is to generate data that are
‘actionable’. As one of my colleagues said to me recently, ‘data are
perishable goods’. It is imperative that we spend the time designing,
collecting, digesting and indeed using data in a timely way to help us
make more informed and ultimately wiser decisions.
We have learned a great deal from our colleagues profiled in this
paper. We expect to continue that learning as we work with our
partners to evolve our strategies, understanding what works and what
doesn’t, and how we might improve our approaches to achieving
long-term, sustainable impact.
Alliance would like to thank the following for contributing to this article:
Paul Brest President, Hewlett Foundation
Jed Emerson Managing Director of Integrated Performance, Uhuru Capital
Management
Katherina Rosqueta Executive Director, Center for High Impact Philanthropy
Brian Trelstad Chief Investment Officer, Acumen Fund
Fay Twersky Director of Impact Planning and Improvement, Bill &
Melinda Gates Foundation
Michael Weinstein Chief Program Officer, Robin Hood Foundation, New York
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